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VeeTec · 05-17-2012, 01:48 AM

My car went 85,477 miles before doing this to me. The extended service contract ran out at 85,000. I am pretty sure it is a fuel injector stuck wide open. I was surprised to find out how common this is. The car will be taken to the dealer in the am and I will post the results here.

I wonder if they can give me a deal on all 4, and then maybe I should just change them myself.

Red5pade · 05-17-2012, 02:36 AM

might be a bad throttle body too.

coils and injectors might be it though too like you said. id like to know what is wrong for future reference though. good luck tomorrow

The Fed · 05-17-2012, 09:38 AM

If an injector was stuck open it would be hard to start, and at idle you will blow black smoke. Like Red said, check your MAF first. Easy enough to do - just unplug it and see if the engine smooths out. If so, replace the MAF. Look for vacuum and pressure leaks. If none, pull your spark plugs. You'll see one plug soaked with fuel if you have an open injector. If not, replace the coils. I assume you changed your plugs at 80K?

Can you get a VAG-COM scan?

VeeTec · 05-19-2012, 01:37 PM

It was an injector. I wish I had the tools and time to do it myself, $793 is a bit steep! The car runs like new again!

Bake · 05-19-2012, 02:21 PM

i had that happen to me also. injector stuck open when the intake flapper crapped out. no fun at all.

glad its running well now though!

The Fed · 05-19-2012, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by VeeTec

It was an injector. I wish I had the tools and time to do it myself, $793 is a bit steep! The car runs like new again!

For one? An injector is about $100 from a dealer. Or did you get them all replaced? Or the valves cleaned?

VeeTec · 05-20-2012, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by The Fed

For one? An injector is about $100 from a dealer. Or did you get them all replaced? Or the valves cleaned?

The injector was $194, the labor was $599. They ran cleaner through the fuel system. Next time, I am either doing it myself or going somewhere else.

biggee72 · 05-20-2012, 10:22 AM

That's what sucks for me. All of the good vw shops are an hour away from me. If I ever have an emergency like this I may be screwed.

BSH Speedshop · 05-20-2012, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by biggee72

That's what sucks for me. All of the good vw shops are an hour away from me. If I ever have an emergency like this I may be screwed.

Is there a community presence near where you live? Thats how we all survived in Az before the scene got big enough to support multiple shops.

05-17-2012, 01:48 AM	#1
VeeTec Drag Racing Champion Drives: 2009 GTI 4DR Autobahn 6 speed Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Grayson, GA Posts: 69	Sputtering, flashing engine light, epc light, blue smoke before shut off... My car went 85,477 miles before doing this to me. The extended service contract ran out at 85,000. I am pretty sure it is a fuel injector stuck wide open. I was surprised to find out how common this is. The car will be taken to the dealer in the am and I will post the results here. I wonder if they can give me a deal on all 4, and then maybe I should just change them myself. __________________ 2009 GTI 4DR 6 speed, United Grey Metallic / Anthracite Leather, Everything except nav. stock (For now)

05-17-2012, 09:38 AM	#3
The Fed Old Guys Rule Drives: 2007 GTI DSG APR S1 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Tampa Bay Posts: 7,874	If an injector was stuck open it would be hard to start, and at idle you will blow black smoke. Like Red said, check your MAF first. Easy enough to do - just unplug it and see if the engine smooths out. If so, replace the MAF. Look for vacuum and pressure leaks. If none, pull your spark plugs. You'll see one plug soaked with fuel if you have an open injector. If not, replace the coils. I assume you changed your plugs at 80K? Can you get a VAG-COM scan? __________________ NRA Life Member

05-19-2012, 01:37 PM	#4
VeeTec Drag Racing Champion Drives: 2009 GTI 4DR Autobahn 6 speed Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Grayson, GA Posts: 69	It was an injector. I wish I had the tools and time to do it myself, $793 is a bit steep! The car runs like new again! __________________ 2009 GTI 4DR 6 speed, United Grey Metallic / Anthracite Leather, Everything except nav. stock (For now)

05-19-2012, 02:21 PM	#5
Bake FIA GT Champion Drives: '08.5 CW DSG Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Manchester, CT Posts: 1,211	i had that happen to me also. injector stuck open when the intake flapper crapped out. no fun at all. glad its running well now though! __________________ 2008.5 GTI DSG Uni Stage II/DSG stage I, Custom TBE, P-Flo/BSH Intake, BSH TB Pipe, Forge DV, Forge Twintercooler, AWE Boost Gauge, Custom DV relocation, H&R Cup Kit

05-20-2012, 10:22 AM	#8
biggee72 Formula 5000 Champion Drives: 2009 GTI DSG 4 Door Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: New Jersey Posts: 2,011	That's what sucks for me. All of the good vw shops are an hour away from me. If I ever have an emergency like this I may be screwed. __________________ Every year, the world's Golf GTI enthusiasts congregate in a field in Austria, and they talk about fuel injection and wear jumpers with "GTI" on them. Frankly I'd rather blow-torch my nipples off.

05-17-2012, 02:36 AM	#2
Red5pade i <3 sweet tea Drives: us bats Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: 'Murica! Posts: 2,726	might be a bad throttle body too. coils and injectors might be it though too like you said. id like to know what is wrong for future reference though. good luck tomorrow

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