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Old 01-14-2010, 08:01 PM   #133
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BTW is the acsii text just normal hex (ie 0x41 for a "A") or some sort of packed format? (have not dug around enough to figure it out for myself :)
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Old 01-15-2010, 03:10 AM   #134
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BTW is the acsii text just normal hex (ie 0x41 for a "A") or some sort of packed format? (have not dug around enough to figure it out for myself :)
http://martinsuniverse.de/projekte/a...iszeichen.html

normal hex.
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Old 01-15-2010, 04:02 AM   #135
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Why didn't i see this thread sooner?
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Old 01-15-2010, 11:41 AM   #136
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it's only 7 pages now small fry in the fray
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Old 01-15-2010, 11:46 AM   #137
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Actually it's not. If you look at that chart 0x61 is not "a" its 0x01 is. The capital letters, numbers, and a few symbols line up with the standard ASCII codes.

But that is exactly what I wanted to know :) I can now code up a translator and start snooping on random packets and see if I can sort out what some of the other messages may mean. (looking for the messages between the sat tuner and radio with the song information in it. Hoping to build a Ipod adapter that plugs in where the sat tuner goes and has full song display on the MFD)
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Old 01-15-2010, 08:12 PM   #138
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Darkside: What do you mean by "OPS/PDC data"?

Wireb: For an example, with the live ascii translation, I can see that can ID: 65F is scrolling through my VIN.
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Old 01-16-2010, 05:50 AM   #139
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Darkside: What do you mean by "OPS/PDC data"?
OPS/PDC is the park distance sensor stuff. If you don't have a RNS510, you just have the beeper for when you get close to an obstacle. Since the OPS/PDC is connected to CAN, however, you can install an RNS510 for this:



And I want the same displayed on my car computer. The PDC is connected to the motor CAN, but the data has to be sent to the multimedia CAN as well, so the RNS510 can display it.
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Old 01-16-2010, 05:30 PM   #140
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which cars came with the backup sensors? I don't think my 2008 has it.
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Old 01-16-2010, 05:32 PM   #141
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which cars came with the backup sensors? I don't think my 2008 has it.
No idea. Seen it on a few European GTIs. I got the parts from the scrap yard. Ripped it out of a '07 GTI.
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Old 01-18-2010, 01:56 PM   #142
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Hi this looks like a great project been Reading it up what whas the last can Reading hardware did you use ie. Best results and what software do you use to get the best Reading I have a fully strip wiring loom where I have connected a can gateway radio and steering control so I don't get any distracting msgs. I use to use elm327 but it has a few bugs
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Old 01-18-2010, 01:57 PM   #143
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O and my mk5 r32 had reverse sensors
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Old 01-18-2010, 03:41 PM   #145
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Hi this looks like a great project been Reading it up what whas the last can Reading hardware did you use ie. Best results and what software do you use to get the best Reading I have a fully strip wiring loom where I have connected a can gateway radio and steering control so I don't get any distracting msgs. I use to use elm327 but it has a few bugs
Some are using a canusb device (scroll back they posted a link to it). I am using my own hardware. Hope to have the board files done this weekend so I can get duplicates made.

Right now I have my prototype running under perl. But it just sends strings out a serial port so just about any programing language will work as long as it can connect to and read from a serial port.
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Old 01-18-2010, 03:46 PM   #146
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Link 2 looks like exactly what I was looking for. I think with that I can make a extra page for my stuff. Somewhere in there is the responce on which page is active but some of the info was lost / scrambled in translation.
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Old 01-18-2010, 06:27 PM   #147
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I use to use elm327 but it has a few bugs
The ELM is a obd2 chip. I.e. it can only connect to the obd2 diagnostic port. Yes, on VW cars, CAN gets translated over OBD2 but this is NOT the same CAN bus we're talking about. Diagnostic can requires a wakeup sequence and your car is put into a diagnostic mode. No idea what this might do to your ECU in the long run (i.e. leaving it connected the entire time).

Besides, all addresses will be different since the diagnostic CAN messages all get translated b the CAN gateway.
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Old 01-19-2010, 01:06 PM   #148
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Hi I connected to the information CAN and type in AT MA (mointer all) but it give to many 0000000 lol :(
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Old 01-19-2010, 01:09 PM   #149
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Thus the reason I need a better scanner and want some recomendation so far sounds like usbcan

And also has anyone tryed sending information to the instrument cluser display I got the FIS and it's would be nice
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Old 01-22-2010, 01:22 AM   #150
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I tried cleaning up the translation from german. It is now a little better.
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File Type: doc MFD Translation.doc (35.5 KB, 325 views)
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Old 01-22-2010, 03:45 PM   #151
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Another thing I got a vag-com hex-can-USB cable and I know this is a good cable. Does anyone know how to access this cable to send cammands through it iv been trying and have even found a few programs that use it but iv have had no luck. I and talking about the new intelegent interface


I also have a crap vagk-can commander and been trying to use the can off that still no luck with that either

If anyone has anyideas on making these work it would be help full thanks
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Old 01-24-2010, 08:01 PM   #152
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Well had some free time this afternoon and finished up the raw card design for the can sniffer.

Later this week I will try and finish up the bill of material with Digikey part numbers.

Supported firmware (so far):
general snoop (Dumps what ever is on the bus out the serial port in raw hex)
button decode (watches for just button presses and sends out "Bx" where x = the button number when a button is pressed)

Other stuff:
Example perl code and a firmware update utility (yes you can swap firmware on the fly.)

If anyone is interested I am willing to order some. Minimum order is 6 sniffers for $15 plus shipping each (just the raw card no parts installed.) I am willing to buy one of the 6 (want to verify the raw card + the prototype is already looking a little ratty from pulling it in and out of the car).

Here are the logic and board files. (click on the thumbnail to get the bigger image. If still too small right click and go view image to zoom in even more)





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Old 01-26-2010, 11:02 AM   #153
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http://www.carnavigationdvd.com/products/27/

Every one,plz check it..

There looks good.

Nice spam I guess
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Old 01-27-2010, 08:19 PM   #154
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Finished the BOM (bill of material) and it came out slightly over $35.

Format was lost when I tried to post it so converted to .csv
Just paste in a text file, rename to .csv, and then open with your favorite spreadsheet program.

Q,value,Digikey PN,ref deg,$ each,$ sub total,,notes
5,.1uF,BC1148CT-ND,"C1,3,4,5,14",,$0.66,,.066 min order 10
7,1uF,BC1151CT-ND,"C6,7,9,10,11,12,13",,$1.78,,.178 min order 10
2,10uF,478-5813-ND,"c8,15",$0.70,$1.40,,
3,,160-1705-ND,"D1,2,3",$0.09,$0.27,,
1,female,A35107-ND,J1,$2.04,$2.04,,
1,49k,49.9KXBK-ND,R1,$0.53,$0.53,,.106 min order 5
3,120,120QBK-ND,"R2,3,4",,$0.32,,.064 min order 5
2,100k,100KQBK-ND,"R6,7",,$0.32,,.064 min order 5
1,PIC16F876,PIC16F876A-I/SP-ND,U1,$6.16,$6.16,,
1,MCP2515,MCP2515-I/P-ND,U2,$1.98,$1.98,,
1,MCP2551,MCP2551-I/P-ND,U3,$1.12,$1.12,,
1,MAX232,296-1402-5-ND,U4,$1.16,$1.16,,
1,LM7805,LM7805CT-ND,U5,$0.43,$0.43,,
1,20MHz 5V,X220-ND,X1,$2.13,$2.13,,
1,,raw card,,$15.00,$15.00,,
,,,,,,
,,,,,,
,,,,,$35.30,Total


I am leaving town next week for work so not much will happen that week. Once I get back I will clean up the firmware and get the "bus snoop" and "button decode" posted.
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