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LiquidG · 07-10-2006, 11:37 PM

How much hp am I looking to gain over apr 93 octane that I alredy have? 10 - 20 hp? So what would be my total hp at the crank roughly. What 1/4 mile times should I see also I have dsg.

DBCPerformance · 07-10-2006, 11:48 PM

one thing that i should share, spending $1,299.00 for 10-20 more hp looks not very feasible. However, I have better throttle response, more torque, much sweeter sound, and of course better acceleration on higher rpms. The car pulls real strong. I like it so far.

tmrakip · 07-11-2006, 07:28 AM

Can you give more details on this Stage 2? It's not even on the APR site, unless it's the ECMS thing. This 10-20 HP is likely in addition to the gains of thier regular upgrade I take it

DBCPerformance · 07-11-2006, 09:31 AM

stg2 is turboback exhaust and flash software

Bad hare · 07-11-2006, 10:57 AM

scuds: whats a stage 3 ?

DBCPerformance · 07-11-2006, 12:15 PM

if there is one, it should be the K04 upgrade and requires the first 2 steps, i might be wrong, but pretty sure.

jasonc32amg · 07-11-2006, 01:51 PM

On a turbo car an exhaust is worth more than the raw hp as well, usually you get quicker response and lower EGT's, especially if you go catless. another reason to go catless is to make al gore cry...

tmrakip · 07-11-2006, 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scuderiavw

stg2 is turboback exhaust and flash software

So basically it's the setup I intend to get

gti mkv · 08-03-2006, 07:56 PM

APR's stage 2 consists of- Carbonio carbon fiber intake system, APR ecu upgrade (flashes), and a 3" stainless steel turbo-back exhaust system. well worth every penny

GTI689 · 08-03-2006, 11:01 PM

I was thinking of getting the APR Turboback exhaust APR ECU upgrade and the EVoms Intake or should i just stick with apr for intake?

DBCPerformance · 08-03-2006, 11:14 PM

you will be fine

bis · 08-04-2006, 09:16 AM

its totally worth it

stage 3 is a turbo but its just a teaser as of now. and its somewhere around 4kish which might now be worth it since i think that will def void the engine warranty.

guys at the dealerships in IL springfield and bloomington seem to be dicks about mods ( atleast the oens i talked to)

BurntGauge · 08-04-2006, 09:38 AM

What's the final price on Stage 2?

Wolfgo · 08-04-2006, 09:51 AM

EVOMS will be a lot better intake.

jasonc32amg · 08-04-2006, 10:09 AM

Do they have a catless option?

Dubweiser · 08-04-2006, 12:50 PM

I've been talking with GHL motorsports and they will make me a catless DP, however there will be an issue with the o2 sensor which is where I'm at right now. I know that when I had my WRX that the dp would just have a bung that you could plug the sensor into. Another remedy that GHL had was to get an o2 simulator. We'll see, but I definitely want to do it because I know that catless will yield the most power and will also be the least expensive.

Win win situation. Haha and I can only hope that Al Gore would cry. ;)

bis · 08-04-2006, 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BurntGauge

What's the final price on Stage 2?

Stage 1 Flash = $500.00
Exhaust = $1400.00
Stage 2 Flash = FREE if you have stage 1 and exhaust

b18flip · 08-04-2006, 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dubweiser

I've been talking with GHL motorsports and they will make me a catless DP, however there will be an issue with the o2 sensor which is where I'm at right now. I know that when I had my WRX that the dp would just have a bung that you could plug the sensor into. Another remedy that GHL had was to get an o2 simulator. We'll see, but I definitely want to do it because I know that catless will yield the most power and will also be the least expensive.

Win win situation. Haha and I can only hope that Al Gore would cry. ;)

yeah keep us updated if the bung will fix the CEL...this works w/ Evo's and WRX's so i hope it'll work for us

BurntGauge · 08-04-2006, 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bis

Stage 1 Flash = $500.00
Exhaust = $1400.00
Stage 2 Flash = FREE if you have stage 1 and exhaust

I thought Stage 2 consisted of this:

Quote:

Originally Posted by gti mkv

APR's stage 2 consists of- Carbonio carbon fiber intake system, APR ecu upgrade (flashes), and a 3" stainless steel turbo-back exhaust system.

So, no intake?

GTiMkVtyler · 08-04-2006, 05:09 PM

Stage 3 is going to be a T28 turbo kit and won't be available for a while. It'll run about 450 -480 horsepower. Pricing is somewhere around 6k.

07-10-2006, 11:37 PM	#1
LiquidG Touring Car Champion Drives: 2006 VW GTI Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Toronto Canada Posts: 591 View LiquidG's Garage	Is stage 2 apr worth it? How much hp am I looking to gain over apr 93 octane that I alredy have? 10 - 20 hp? So what would be my total hp at the crank roughly. What 1/4 mile times should I see also I have dsg.

07-10-2006, 11:48 PM	#2
DBCPerformance OEM & AFTERMARKET PARTS Drives: GTI MK6 & MK2 Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: T E X A S Posts: 9,787	one thing that i should share, spending $1,299.00 for 10-20 more hp looks not very feasible. However, I have better throttle response, more torque, much sweeter sound, and of course better acceleration on higher rpms. The car pulls real strong. I like it so far. __________________ Online Store \| Customer Service Email \| Facebook Fan Page \| Twitter \| Blog P: (210)399-1172

07-11-2006, 09:31 AM	#4
DBCPerformance OEM & AFTERMARKET PARTS Drives: GTI MK6 & MK2 Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: T E X A S Posts: 9,787	stg2 is turboback exhaust and flash software __________________ Online Store \| Customer Service Email \| Facebook Fan Page \| Twitter \| Blog P: (210)399-1172

07-11-2006, 12:15 PM	#6
DBCPerformance OEM & AFTERMARKET PARTS Drives: GTI MK6 & MK2 Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: T E X A S Posts: 9,787	if there is one, it should be the K04 upgrade and requires the first 2 steps, i might be wrong, but pretty sure. __________________ Online Store \| Customer Service Email \| Facebook Fan Page \| Twitter \| Blog P: (210)399-1172

08-03-2006, 07:56 PM	#9
gti mkv Rally Car Newbie Drives: 06 c-white gti mkv CW-0001 Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: ohio Posts: 281 View gti mkv's Garage	APR's stage 2 consists of- Carbonio carbon fiber intake system, APR ecu upgrade (flashes), and a 3" stainless steel turbo-back exhaust system. well worth every penny __________________ " my fast is faster then your fast...and my fast can beat up your fast " APR stage 2 kit-APR 3" stainless turbo-back sport exhaust system, APR ECU upgrade, APR ECU octane programs (all that is available 91,93,and stock), Carbonio carbon fiber CAI system, Forge diverter valve, H&R sport springs, and one happy fast CW-0001

07-11-2006, 07:28 AM	#3
tmrakip Dog is my co-pilot Drives: Reflex Silver w/DSG Join Date: May 2006 Location: West Palm Beach, FL Posts: 756 View tmrakip's Garage	Can you give more details on this Stage 2? It's not even on the APR site, unless it's the ECMS thing. This 10-20 HP is likely in addition to the gains of thier regular upgrade I take it

07-11-2006, 01:51 PM	#7
jasonc32amg Go Kart Newbie Drives: 2006 Evo IX RS - ZX10r Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Treasure Coast, FL Posts: 31	On a turbo car an exhaust is worth more than the raw hp as well, usually you get quicker response and lower EGT's, especially if you go catless. another reason to go catless is to make al gore cry...

08-03-2006, 11:01 PM	#10
GTI689 Oval Champion Drives: 2006 Black GTI Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Souh Florida Posts: 305 View GTI689's Garage	I was thinking of getting the APR Turboback exhaust APR ECU upgrade and the EVoms Intake or should i just stick with apr for intake? __________________ APR Stage 2/ATP Downpipe/Custom 3inch exhaust/Evoms Intake/Forge Spacer/Divertervalve/VF Engine Mount/PCV vavle/19inch Axis rims Black with chrome lip/eibach springs/Black VW emblems/20th century GTI rabbit badge/Tint/Smoked Side Markers/Smoked Tail Lights/pioneer D3/two 12inch subs 1600 Watt Amp

08-03-2006, 11:14 PM	#11
DBCPerformance OEM & AFTERMARKET PARTS Drives: GTI MK6 & MK2 Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: T E X A S Posts: 9,787	you will be fine __________________ Online Store \| Customer Service Email \| Facebook Fan Page \| Twitter \| Blog P: (210)399-1172

08-04-2006, 09:16 AM	#12
bis 100k+ club king Drives: 2006 GTI DSG Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: New Orleans Posts: 319	its totally worth it stage 3 is a turbo but its just a teaser as of now. and its somewhere around 4kish which might now be worth it since i think that will def void the engine warranty. guys at the dealerships in IL springfield and bloomington seem to be dicks about mods ( atleast the oens i talked to)

08-04-2006, 09:38 AM	#13
BurntGauge AWD > FWD Drives: '08 STi Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: JAX, FL Posts: 4,540 View BurntGauge's Garage	What's the final price on Stage 2? __________________ Gabriel http://burntgauge.webs.com/

08-04-2006, 09:51 AM	#14
Wolfgo Ready to race! Drives: 2001 VW Jetta 1.8T Wolfsburg Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Houston Posts: 25	EVOMS will be a lot better intake.

08-04-2006, 10:09 AM	#15
jasonc32amg Go Kart Newbie Drives: 2006 Evo IX RS - ZX10r Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Treasure Coast, FL Posts: 31	Do they have a catless option?

08-04-2006, 12:50 PM	#16
Dubweiser Passed Driver's Ed Drives: '10 CC & GTI Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Jax, FL Posts: 148	I've been talking with GHL motorsports and they will make me a catless DP, however there will be an issue with the o2 sensor which is where I'm at right now. I know that when I had my WRX that the dp would just have a bung that you could plug the sensor into. Another remedy that GHL had was to get an o2 simulator. We'll see, but I definitely want to do it because I know that catless will yield the most power and will also be the least expensive. Win win situation. Haha and I can only hope that Al Gore would cry. ;)

08-04-2006, 05:09 PM	#20
GTiMkVtyler Autocross Champion Drives: GTI Mkv Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Louisiana Posts: 110 View GTiMkVtyler's Garage	Stage 3 is going to be a T28 turbo kit and won't be available for a while. It'll run about 450 -480 horsepower. Pricing is somewhere around 6k. __________________ 2006 GTI MkV. Carspace is better than Myspace.

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