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Zorro · 08-07-2006, 02:20 PM

Hi,
My GTI arrives next week after 3 long months of waiting.
Just a question for you guys:
I have noticed how BMW, Mercedes, Porches's Xenon lights have that crisp white light. At a certain angle, it gives off a hint of blue which looks so awesome.
I wonder if the Xenon in the GTI's also display that hint of blue.
Just curious.

Thanks

zorro

MHS216 · 08-07-2006, 02:20 PM

Yes

Freek · 08-07-2006, 02:38 PM

no

Masterof6thspeed · 08-07-2006, 02:54 PM

They only have a tint of blue when you first turn them on because the gas molecules are not completely excited yet. They become bright white very quickly.

07mkvgti · 08-07-2006, 03:02 PM

they're blue 4 the first 5 min and go white, i think i might get 8000k bulbs.

gtiTom · 08-07-2006, 04:13 PM

lol I posted the exact same thing about this when i first came here to the forums.. As said above, its blue for several seconds then it goes crisp white.

Zorro · 08-07-2006, 05:32 PM

Would you know if it's possible to make an upgrade, bulb replacement,etc to simulate the same effect as the BMW head lights?
Has anyone tried so far?

07mkvgti · 08-07-2006, 05:44 PM

well u get the same effect, and yes u can upgrade 2 get a bluer and even purple shaded bulb.

DBCPerformance · 08-07-2006, 06:34 PM

they are 4300K, so will be very bright white instead of bluish

Parrothead · 08-07-2006, 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 07mkvgti

they're blue 4 the first 5 min and go white, i think i might get 8000k bulbs.

don't waste your money, you LOSE light output with anything above 6000k... all youll get is shitty output w/ a purple glow.

Fuzzbear · 08-07-2006, 06:54 PM

Yeah never understood why people wanted under performing headlights... that blue shit makes my eyes hurt anyway

07mkvgti · 08-07-2006, 06:57 PM

then i'll get 6000K. Do u suggest any kind of bulbs?

tmrakip · 08-07-2006, 09:04 PM

No need to 'simulate' the effect, as they all use the same stuff. Ballasts and projectors are usually from either Hella (mainly these days) or Valeo, and the bulbs are almost always Sylvania Osrams. I own a BMW also, and have owned a MB, Ranger Rover etc and they all look the same as the GTI after like a minute.

Also, if you were driving towards your GTI you'd see the blue/purple prism effect, but it's because of the projector, which both focuses the light and reduces glare to other drives.

Zorro · 08-07-2006, 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tmrakip

No need to 'simulate' the effect, as they all use the same stuff. Ballasts and projectors are usually from either Hella (mainly these days) or Valeo, and the bulbs are almost always Sylvania Osrams. I own a BMW also, and have owned a MB, Ranger Rover etc and they all look the same as the GTI after like a minute.

Also, if you were driving towards your GTI you'd see the blue/purple prism effect, but it's because of the projector, which both focuses the light and reduces glare to other drives.

Thank you for the info guys. Very helpful.

tmrakip · 08-07-2006, 09:20 PM

No problem :)

Nikos147 · 08-08-2006, 01:36 AM

I have a question for you guys...

If you flash your high-beam...do you get a halogen light beam...or a xenon light "flash"?

I ask cause usually at xenon bulbs...or actually bi-xenon, xenons are also used for high-beam. It is easy to do because there is a mechanism that just momentarily raises your bulb/projector to widen the light beam. If you have been in the interstate/highway and an A4 with xenons is coming fast and flashes the high-beam...you'll know what I'm talking about.

I just don't know if this happens also in the GTI's xenons. I have seen it in the Audi xenons...I don't see why they should have any difference since the mechanism is identically alike.

Thanks for the info...

NoRegrets78 · 08-08-2006, 07:12 AM

In the GTI, the high beams with the headlights on are indeed the xenons...just moves a flap that allows the beam to project higher. If you don't have the lights on and hit the highs, the halogens light up.

alf · 08-08-2006, 07:55 AM

bulb doesnt burn hot enough.

tmrakip · 08-08-2006, 09:23 AM

Somehow my center halogens are my high beams, on top of the Xenons. I've done some work with VAG_COM though, I've got the UK setup going. Stock my car would do the flip up for the highs.

Fonderson · 08-08-2006, 09:50 AM

If i get my car back today, i'll try and take a photo of our merc next to the gti with both lights on.

Zorro · 08-08-2006, 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fonderson

If i get my car back today, i'll try and take a photo of our merc next to the gti with both lights on.

That will be so nice to see.
I will be looking forward to those pictures.

Take care!

ShangoAshe · 08-09-2006, 01:18 AM

hey is it worth gettin *angel eyes*?!

08-07-2006, 02:20 PM	#1
Zorro Go Kart Newbie Drives: GTI - United Gray - Leather Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 54 View Zorro's Garage	GTI Xenon headlights: Do they display that hint of blue as the BMW & Mercedes? Hi, My GTI arrives next week after 3 long months of waiting. Just a question for you guys: I have noticed how BMW, Mercedes, Porches's Xenon lights have that crisp white light. At a certain angle, it gives off a hint of blue which looks so awesome. I wonder if the Xenon in the GTI's also display that hint of blue. Just curious. Thanks zorro

08-07-2006, 02:20 PM	#2
MHS216 Anchors Aweigh Drives: 06 United Grey GTI Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: All over the place... Posts: 2,789	Yes __________________ Matt-Because signatures offend the elite.

08-07-2006, 02:38 PM	#3
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08-07-2006, 03:02 PM	#5
07mkvgti Rally Car Newbie Drives: Black Magic MKV Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Pembroke Pines, Fl Posts: 5,568 View 07mkvgti's Garage	they're blue 4 the first 5 min and go white, i think i might get 8000k bulbs. __________________ BMP 06 GTI Pkg 2 Power: 204hp 210tq (Stock) 197hp 250tq(Need to fix the camshaft and fuel pump) Modifications: APR 93/100, Carbonio, Forge DV, Eurojet PCV Valve, AWE Boost Gauge, Euroswitch, Koni Coilovers, Neuspeed Sway Bar UG 07 GTI Pkg 1 Modifications: Stock, Europlate lol BALLLLLLLLLLLLLIN CREW MEMBER #99 bishes

08-07-2006, 04:13 PM	#6
gtiTom The Average Asian Drives: 07 GTI Join Date: May 2006 Location: North Bethesda, MD Posts: 4,222	lol I posted the exact same thing about this when i first came here to the forums.. As said above, its blue for several seconds then it goes crisp white. __________________

08-07-2006, 02:54 PM	#4
Masterof6thspeed w00t Drives: '06 BMP DSG GTI Join Date: May 2006 Location: Charlotte/Chapel Hill, NC Posts: 573	They only have a tint of blue when you first turn them on because the gas molecules are not completely excited yet. They become bright white very quickly.

08-07-2006, 05:32 PM	#7
Zorro Go Kart Newbie Drives: GTI - United Gray - Leather Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 54 View Zorro's Garage	Would you know if it's possible to make an upgrade, bulb replacement,etc to simulate the same effect as the BMW head lights? Has anyone tried so far?

08-07-2006, 05:44 PM	#8
07mkvgti Rally Car Newbie Drives: Black Magic MKV Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Pembroke Pines, Fl Posts: 5,568 View 07mkvgti's Garage	well u get the same effect, and yes u can upgrade 2 get a bluer and even purple shaded bulb. __________________ BMP 06 GTI Pkg 2 Power: 204hp 210tq (Stock) 197hp 250tq(Need to fix the camshaft and fuel pump) Modifications: APR 93/100, Carbonio, Forge DV, Eurojet PCV Valve, AWE Boost Gauge, Euroswitch, Koni Coilovers, Neuspeed Sway Bar UG 07 GTI Pkg 1 Modifications: Stock, Europlate lol BALLLLLLLLLLLLLIN CREW MEMBER #99 bishes

08-07-2006, 06:34 PM	#9
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08-07-2006, 06:54 PM	#11
Fuzzbear Fat bastard Drives: 2007 BMP PKG2 DSG GTI Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: New Lenox, IL Posts: 837	Yeah never understood why people wanted under performing headlights... that blue shit makes my eyes hurt anyway __________________ BMH-0666

08-07-2006, 06:57 PM	#12
07mkvgti Rally Car Newbie Drives: Black Magic MKV Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Pembroke Pines, Fl Posts: 5,568 View 07mkvgti's Garage	then i'll get 6000K. Do u suggest any kind of bulbs? __________________ BMP 06 GTI Pkg 2 Power: 204hp 210tq (Stock) 197hp 250tq(Need to fix the camshaft and fuel pump) Modifications: APR 93/100, Carbonio, Forge DV, Eurojet PCV Valve, AWE Boost Gauge, Euroswitch, Koni Coilovers, Neuspeed Sway Bar UG 07 GTI Pkg 1 Modifications: Stock, Europlate lol BALLLLLLLLLLLLLIN CREW MEMBER #99 bishes

08-07-2006, 09:04 PM	#13
tmrakip Dog is my co-pilot Drives: Reflex Silver w/DSG Join Date: May 2006 Location: West Palm Beach, FL Posts: 756 View tmrakip's Garage	No need to 'simulate' the effect, as they all use the same stuff. Ballasts and projectors are usually from either Hella (mainly these days) or Valeo, and the bulbs are almost always Sylvania Osrams. I own a BMW also, and have owned a MB, Ranger Rover etc and they all look the same as the GTI after like a minute. Also, if you were driving towards your GTI you'd see the blue/purple prism effect, but it's because of the projector, which both focuses the light and reduces glare to other drives.

08-07-2006, 09:20 PM	#15
tmrakip Dog is my co-pilot Drives: Reflex Silver w/DSG Join Date: May 2006 Location: West Palm Beach, FL Posts: 756 View tmrakip's Garage	No problem :)

08-08-2006, 01:36 AM	#16
Nikos147 Go Kart Champion Drives: Alfa Romeo 147 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Athens, Greece Posts: 45	I have a question for you guys... If you flash your high-beam...do you get a halogen light beam...or a xenon light "flash"? I ask cause usually at xenon bulbs...or actually bi-xenon, xenons are also used for high-beam. It is easy to do because there is a mechanism that just momentarily raises your bulb/projector to widen the light beam. If you have been in the interstate/highway and an A4 with xenons is coming fast and flashes the high-beam...you'll know what I'm talking about. I just don't know if this happens also in the GTI's xenons. I have seen it in the Audi xenons...I don't see why they should have any difference since the mechanism is identically alike. Thanks for the info...

08-08-2006, 07:12 AM	#17
NoRegrets78 Yes, I'm BACK! Drives: 2012 4dr CW DSG Sunroof/Nav Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: West Islip Posts: 3,544	In the GTI, the high beams with the headlights on are indeed the xenons...just moves a flap that allows the beam to project higher. If you don't have the lights on and hit the highs, the halogens light up. __________________ see you in infinity...

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08-08-2006, 07:55 AM	#18
alf Modwhoreator Drives: \/ \/\/ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 12,345 View alf's Garage	bulb doesnt burn hot enough.

08-08-2006, 09:23 AM	#19
tmrakip Dog is my co-pilot Drives: Reflex Silver w/DSG Join Date: May 2006 Location: West Palm Beach, FL Posts: 756 View tmrakip's Garage	Somehow my center halogens are my high beams, on top of the Xenons. I've done some work with VAG_COM though, I've got the UK setup going. Stock my car would do the flip up for the highs.

08-08-2006, 09:50 AM	#20
Fonderson Autocross Champion Drives: 08 Lexus ISF Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Tampa Posts: 817	If i get my car back today, i'll try and take a photo of our merc next to the gti with both lights on.

08-09-2006, 01:18 AM	#22
ShangoAshe Drag Racing Champion Drives: 07 5-door GTI Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Vancouver, BC, Canada Posts: 235	hey is it worth gettin angel eyes?!