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DubDriver17 · 09-19-2006, 10:07 PM

ATPturbo.com has IMO a really sweet looking intake and an awesome DP. A new DP for under 400?!?!? I was like sweet. But there is a catch, no cat. Anyway, here's the link.

http://www.atpturbo.com/Merchant2/me...egory_Code=FSI

Discuss.

redGTI · 09-19-2006, 10:23 PM

I'd been waiting for this to show up. Have an ATP 3" dp on my 1.8t, LOVE IT.

DubDriver17 · 09-19-2006, 10:25 PM

The intake LOOKS good but I don't think the wires to the MAF are long enough to reach the MAF housing on it. Also, it looks like there should be one more bend in the tubing to put the filter in front of the battery.

CalBoyTex · 09-19-2006, 11:58 PM

im not into all the different pieces... what i mean is that id rather have a 2 piece intake... its easier because im lazy.

McPsycho · 09-20-2006, 12:46 AM

they gained 12hp from the chip but 25hp from the dp?

jonnyc · 09-20-2006, 04:01 AM

That looks a nice dp...

Wish there was some options on parts here in the UK...

25bhp going from a standard dp with 2 cats to a 3" dp with no cats..... easy!

Anyone on here ran the 2.0fsi engine with no cats!? Im interested to hear how you got on...

Thanks

JonnyC

Wantagti · 09-20-2006, 06:09 AM

Since most have argued the 3.0 isn't the way to go, I don't know myself, I will mention the downpipe with cat in 2.5" is $450 from www.techtonicstuning.com . That is another good deal. Unless someone has proven the 3.0" is the way to go.

Wantagti · 09-20-2006, 06:51 AM

Bam http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=2832619 even better deal!!!

DubDriver17 · 09-21-2006, 06:00 AM

Sent an e-mail to ATP:

I was wondering if you had a picture of your intake installed on a new GTI. I am worried about the MAF wires being long enough to reach the MAF housing. Plus, I am just wondering how it looks on the car. Also, how does the aftermarker DV thing work since the FSI's have an electronic DV connected to the turbo?

From ATP:

Jamie,

Picture attached as you've requested.

MAF wire is more than enough reach.

The aftermarket DV port is there so that when you install an aftermarket DV,
the kit provides a reroute location after the MAF for proper air metering.

If you look at the stock integrated DV valve, the diaphram is prone to
rupture so we will offer a conversion kit that will bolt right into this. In
the picture, you'll see the DV port hidden because it's designed to be
installed the other way when an aftermarket DV is not installed. We'll
provide pictures of the DV reroute when that kit is released, but it's quite
trick.

Let us know if you have any other questions.

Thanks!

I like the looks of that intake. I'm thinkn about doin that with the Evoms heat shield and engine cover.

Acoustic81 · 09-21-2006, 09:08 AM

That's the fugliest thing i've ever seen

Wantagti · 09-21-2006, 09:22 AM

I'm surprised no one has jumped on about the "hot" air intake. That part does not impress me, but the dp does.

alf · 09-21-2006, 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wantagti

I'm surprised no one has jumped on about the "hot" air intake. That part does not impress me, but the dp does.

its called ram air intake, provides more torque while sacrificing top end.

also, that intake has no kinds of support anywhere. the DP looks nice though.

DubDriver17 · 09-21-2006, 11:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wantagti

I'm surprised no one has jumped on about the "hot" air intake. That part does not impress me, but the dp does.

Yea hence the part about buying the heat shield

Wantagti · 09-22-2006, 07:15 AM

You'd need a big one. I'm liking my K@N with the stock intake again.

HotLanta MKfizzle · 09-22-2006, 10:56 AM

what's the deal with running a "no-cat" system? What types of problems could you encounter? why is it illegal? What are the advantages?

tmrakip · 09-22-2006, 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HotLanta MKfizzle

what's the deal with running a "no-cat" system? What types of problems could you encounter? why is it illegal? What are the advantages?

Emissions is what makes it illegal, from my understanding the cat absorbs some of the nastys from the exhaust gas, which is why it is the most restrictve part of the exhaust system. You can get some great gains without one, at the cost of an increased effect on the environment.

alf · 09-22-2006, 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tmrakip

Emissions is what makes it illegal, from my understanding the cat absorbs some of the nastys from the exhaust gas, which is why it is the most restrictve part of the exhaust system. You can get some great gains without one, at the cost of an increased effect on the environment.

fuck the environment. lol.

Acoustic81 · 09-22-2006, 11:06 AM

lungs < horsepower

HotLanta MKfizzle · 09-22-2006, 11:10 AM

since our cars are new, and we don't have to do smog checks, how can this be discovered?

AutoXinMK5 · 09-22-2006, 11:25 AM

It's a FEDERAL crime to not run a cat and if I remember correctly it's a $1500 fine not to have one (if you're caught) but, in VA we don't have emissions, just state inspection. So if you've got something that 'looks' like a cat you can get away with it.

The down side is no cat usually causes a rear 02 sensor DTC. The rear 02 sendor is built to moniter cat performance. With no cat you have a higher 02 (emissions level) so the rear cat seems to think the cat is f-ed up and you have the CE light come on.

Not sure if it works on this car, but one way to counteract this issue (for those cars that don't have a rear o2 simulator) is to get a couple spart plug foulers and put them into the rear 02 bung then screw the rear 02 sensor in it. That way, less exhaust gets to the 02 sensor, and therfore the sensor thinks there is a cat there.

alf · 09-22-2006, 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HotLanta MKfizzle

since our cars are new, and we don't have to do smog checks, how can this be discovered?

this can only be discovered after the first two years when ur inspeciton is up, u can enjoy it for two years, then worry about the CAT. well at least here in texas.

alf · 09-22-2006, 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AutoXinMK5

It's a FEDERAL crime to not run a cat and if I remember correctly it's a $1500 fine not to have one (if you're caught) but, in VA we don't have emissions, just state inspection. So if you've got something that 'looks' like a cat you can get away with it.

The down side is no cat usually causes a rear 02 sensor DTC. The rear 02 sendor is built to moniter cat performance. With no cat you have a higher 02 (emissions level) so the rear cat seems to think the cat is f-ed up and you have the CE light come on.

Not sure if it works on this car, but one way to counteract this issue (for those cars that don't have a rear o2 simulator) is to get a couple spart plug foulers and put them into the rear 02 bung then screw the rear 02 sensor in it. That way, less exhaust gets to the 02 sensor, and therfore the sensor thinks there is a cat there.

ive made a few o2 simulators with spark plug defoulers from autozone, and they all clear the light.

like you said less exhaust cleaner air = no code = win win for inspection.

09-19-2006, 10:07 PM	#1
DubDriver17 Oval Newbie Drives: 2006 VW GTI Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Bel Air, MD Posts: 823 View DubDriver17's Garage	New intake and Dp from ATP!!! --awesome prices-- ATPturbo.com has IMO a really sweet looking intake and an awesome DP. A new DP for under 400?!?!? I was like sweet. But there is a catch, no cat. Anyway, here's the link. http://www.atpturbo.com/Merchant2/me...egory_Code=FSI Discuss. __________________ 2006 Candy White GTI PKG 2 \| APR Stage 2 Beta\| Spec Stage 2 clutch and Flywheel \| Forge FMIC \| Neuspeed Intake \| Custom 3" turboback Exhaust \| Forge DV Spacer \| AWE Boost Gauge \| .:R32 Tail lights \| 20th AE Badges \| Smoked Bumper Markers \| In-Pro Smoked Mirror signals Cars on the Lot 2009 Video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cASAIEA8oG0

09-19-2006, 10:25 PM	#3
DubDriver17 Oval Newbie Drives: 2006 VW GTI Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Bel Air, MD Posts: 823 View DubDriver17's Garage	The intake LOOKS good but I don't think the wires to the MAF are long enough to reach the MAF housing on it. Also, it looks like there should be one more bend in the tubing to put the filter in front of the battery. __________________ 2006 Candy White GTI PKG 2 \| APR Stage 2 Beta\| Spec Stage 2 clutch and Flywheel \| Forge FMIC \| Neuspeed Intake \| Custom 3" turboback Exhaust \| Forge DV Spacer \| AWE Boost Gauge \| .:R32 Tail lights \| 20th AE Badges \| Smoked Bumper Markers \| In-Pro Smoked Mirror signals Cars on the Lot 2009 Video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cASAIEA8oG0

09-20-2006, 06:09 AM	#7
Wantagti insufficient funds Drives: None Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Apex, NC Posts: 1,366 View Wantagti's Garage	Since most have argued the 3.0 isn't the way to go, I don't know myself, I will mention the downpipe with cat in 2.5" is $450 from www.techtonicstuning.com . That is another good deal. Unless someone has proven the 3.0" is the way to go. __________________ 03 Suburban Z71..... :(

09-20-2006, 06:51 AM	#8
Wantagti insufficient funds Drives: None Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Apex, NC Posts: 1,366 View Wantagti's Garage	Bam http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=2832619 even better deal!!! __________________ 03 Suburban Z71..... :(

09-21-2006, 06:00 AM	#9
DubDriver17 Oval Newbie Drives: 2006 VW GTI Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Bel Air, MD Posts: 823 View DubDriver17's Garage	Sent an e-mail to ATP: I was wondering if you had a picture of your intake installed on a new GTI. I am worried about the MAF wires being long enough to reach the MAF housing. Plus, I am just wondering how it looks on the car. Also, how does the aftermarker DV thing work since the FSI's have an electronic DV connected to the turbo? From ATP: Jamie, Picture attached as you've requested. MAF wire is more than enough reach. The aftermarket DV port is there so that when you install an aftermarket DV, the kit provides a reroute location after the MAF for proper air metering. If you look at the stock integrated DV valve, the diaphram is prone to rupture so we will offer a conversion kit that will bolt right into this. In the picture, you'll see the DV port hidden because it's designed to be installed the other way when an aftermarket DV is not installed. We'll provide pictures of the DV reroute when that kit is released, but it's quite trick. Let us know if you have any other questions. Thanks! I like the looks of that intake. I'm thinkn about doin that with the Evoms heat shield and engine cover. __________________ 2006 Candy White GTI PKG 2 \| APR Stage 2 Beta\| Spec Stage 2 clutch and Flywheel \| Forge FMIC \| Neuspeed Intake \| Custom 3" turboback Exhaust \| Forge DV Spacer \| AWE Boost Gauge \| .:R32 Tail lights \| 20th AE Badges \| Smoked Bumper Markers \| In-Pro Smoked Mirror signals Cars on the Lot 2009 Video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cASAIEA8oG0

09-19-2006, 11:58 PM	#4
CalBoyTex Banned Drives: 2006 GTI Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: JAX,FL Posts: 5,723	im not into all the different pieces... what i mean is that id rather have a 2 piece intake... its easier because im lazy.

09-20-2006, 12:46 AM	#5
McPsycho Rally Car Champion Drives: 06 reflex silver gti Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Daytona, FL Posts: 635 View McPsycho's Garage	they gained 12hp from the chip but 25hp from the dp?

09-20-2006, 04:01 AM	#6
jonnyc Newbie Drives: Ibis White 08' S3 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: UK Posts: 429	That looks a nice dp... Wish there was some options on parts here in the UK... 25bhp going from a standard dp with 2 cats to a 3" dp with no cats..... easy! Anyone on here ran the 2.0fsi engine with no cats!? Im interested to hear how you got on... Thanks JonnyC

09-21-2006, 09:08 AM	#10
Acoustic81 In-Tune Drives: 2006 GTI MK5 (Black) Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Stroudsburg, PA Posts: 744 View Acoustic81's Garage	That's the fugliest thing i've ever seen __________________ http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2353040 "I have a Porsche Carrera GT, I have a McLaren F1, and anybody that tells you they’ve taken those cars to 200mph is a liar. They haven’t. Believe me. I did a couple of hundred laps at Talladega and the fastest I got to was 190mph – on a track. By myself. And it was scary. Nobody does those speeds on a public road. If you do, you should be in prison. The real-world fun of acceleration is between 40mph and 80mph." -Jay Leno

09-21-2006, 09:22 AM	#11
Wantagti insufficient funds Drives: None Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Apex, NC Posts: 1,366 View Wantagti's Garage	I'm surprised no one has jumped on about the "hot" air intake. That part does not impress me, but the dp does. __________________ 03 Suburban Z71..... :(

09-22-2006, 07:15 AM	#14
Wantagti insufficient funds Drives: None Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Apex, NC Posts: 1,366 View Wantagti's Garage	You'd need a big one. I'm liking my K@N with the stock intake again. __________________ 03 Suburban Z71..... :(

09-22-2006, 10:56 AM	#15
HotLanta MKfizzle Formula 5000 Driver Drives: United Gray MkV... Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Atlanta GA Posts: 1,551 View HotLanta MKfizzle's Garage	what's the deal with running a "no-cat" system? What types of problems could you encounter? why is it illegal? What are the advantages? __________________ I AM A FUCKING DILDO

09-22-2006, 11:06 AM	#18
Acoustic81 In-Tune Drives: 2006 GTI MK5 (Black) Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Stroudsburg, PA Posts: 744 View Acoustic81's Garage	lungs < horsepower __________________ http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2353040 "I have a Porsche Carrera GT, I have a McLaren F1, and anybody that tells you they’ve taken those cars to 200mph is a liar. They haven’t. Believe me. I did a couple of hundred laps at Talladega and the fastest I got to was 190mph – on a track. By myself. And it was scary. Nobody does those speeds on a public road. If you do, you should be in prison. The real-world fun of acceleration is between 40mph and 80mph." -Jay Leno

09-22-2006, 11:10 AM	#19
HotLanta MKfizzle Formula 5000 Driver Drives: United Gray MkV... Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Atlanta GA Posts: 1,551 View HotLanta MKfizzle's Garage	since our cars are new, and we don't have to do smog checks, how can this be discovered? __________________ I AM A FUCKING DILDO

09-22-2006, 11:25 AM	#20
AutoXinMK5 Touring Car Champion Drives: Red 06 GTI PK0 MT Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Virginia Posts: 578	It's a FEDERAL crime to not run a cat and if I remember correctly it's a $1500 fine not to have one (if you're caught) but, in VA we don't have emissions, just state inspection. So if you've got something that 'looks' like a cat you can get away with it. The down side is no cat usually causes a rear 02 sensor DTC. The rear 02 sendor is built to moniter cat performance. With no cat you have a higher 02 (emissions level) so the rear cat seems to think the cat is f-ed up and you have the CE light come on. Not sure if it works on this car, but one way to counteract this issue (for those cars that don't have a rear o2 simulator) is to get a couple spart plug foulers and put them into the rear 02 bung then screw the rear 02 sensor in it. That way, less exhaust gets to the 02 sensor, and therfore the sensor thinks there is a cat there. __________________ 06 GTI 2.0T \| Pk0 \| M/T \| <-- Gone 98 Jetta VR6 \| GLX \| M/T \| custom intake \| 2.5in exhaust \| Prothane Poly CA busings \| BFI Poly engine mounts \| GTI front end swap \| Euro front lip \| Euro textured flares/rubstrips \| Factory BBS Buggatts coated gunmetal \| T04E system in the works

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