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banzai7 · 06-02-2009, 10:02 AM

It was not NOS I can garuntee that.... I pretty sure that post was a joke

banzai7 · 06-02-2009, 10:08 AM

Definately should think of getting one of pcv fixes if your stage 2

julito04 · 06-02-2009, 10:27 AM

one of them? Just get rid of them with the BSH PCV fix.

lewxcore · 06-02-2009, 01:10 PM

water/meth is good for some power.. not a crazy load but still..

that could be the difference between a just a downpipe stage 2
and a HPFP upgraded/water-meth/maybe possible wastegate tweeked stage 2+ car.

I've seen my car pull away from similar stage 2 gti's top end.

The only video i have of something like that is a stage 2 dsg mkv running 110 leaded and a tweeked wastegate. I started in 3rd cause my stock clutch was seeing the end of it's days but i went from getting walked to reeling him in and passing him. I shut down once i got out in front of him.

see 2:25
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34OByMXxRok

Rev2Ten-K · 06-02-2009, 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lewxcore

water/meth is good for some power.. not a crazy load but still..

that could be the difference between a just a downpipe stage 2
and a HPFP upgraded/water-meth/maybe possible wastegate tweeked stage 2+ car.

I've seen my car pull away from similar stage 2 gti's top end.

The only video i have of something like that is a stage 2 dsg mkv running 110 leaded and a tweeked wastegate. I started in 3rd cause my stock clutch was seeing the end of it's days but i went from getting walked to reeling him in and passing him. I shut down once i got out in front of him.

see 2:25
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34OByMXxRok

Both DSG? Or just him?

Seems like he had you until his tranny shifted into 5th gear, and that's when you start to come back on him.

If it's dsg vs 6 speed, pretty common results IMO. DSG are geared a little more aggressive down low, but that only comes back to hurt them up top (when running a car making the same power).

So is he shifted to 5th, and you were still riding out 4th, the gearing advantage was strongly in your favor. Which IMO is why you came back like that.

Could be wrong though.

Edit: Which speaking of, kinda reminds me of this race 6 speed vs dsg.

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/A...IAC_155088.htm

Budussy · 06-02-2009, 07:35 PM

Havent seen a mkV with nos yet.

GTI787 · 06-02-2009, 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Budussy

Havent seen a mkV with nos yet.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=af7HrDJO068

sloMk5 · 06-02-2009, 08:04 PM

hard to tell but it sounded like he started at pretty low RPM which would explain why you hung for a second before he walked you. Looks about right to me though, you have an 06, so your tune is a lot less agressive than the other model years, not to mention the hardware is more limited. And on the stock PCV you're even slower. I don't know his mods, but there's also a big difference between basic stage 2 and and an all out stock turbo setup. Stage 2 still really has no topend...

Budussy · 06-02-2009, 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GTI787

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=af7HrDJO068

Well there you go. Any more info?

sloMk5 · 06-02-2009, 08:24 PM

very old, search for the BMF Nitrous Kit thread in the Vortex archives

edit here it is http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=3412422

Slim2002 · 06-03-2009, 08:19 AM

ok all these suggestion's and theory's seem to be very solid, I hate to sound like a noob but can anyone of you guy's explain to me how the PCV fix helps out the motor or can you point me to a previous post on the pcv fix?

Grmncrsnbr · 06-03-2009, 09:01 AM

Im still trying to figure out your explanation.

So he walked you but beat your buddies GSR worse than he beat you yet you cant beat your buddies GSR. Logically that doesnt make any sense.

He > You
He >> GSR
GSR > You

sounds more like driver error than anything else to me. Yeah he may have is stock PCV/DV replaced and what not but it sounds like you are inconsistent when it comes to driving. No offense or anything just my take on it.

Slim2002 · 06-03-2009, 09:34 AM

well Grmncrsnbr i kind of agree with you on that but we ran again that night t and he couldn't pull me like he usually did, and i know it's not a big mod, but that DV helped me alot, cause everytime we ran before he would pull me hard but now he's having trouble, i guess also with the stock dv i was boosting 12psi but with the Forge dv im holding 15psi..when i get that clip i send it to you, that's unless he destroy's the evidence..lol

banzai7 · 06-03-2009, 09:55 AM

You are only boosting 15psi on APR stage 2? Thats your problem.

rysskii3 · 06-03-2009, 11:32 AM

i am stage 2.....
well stage GIAC lol

julito04 · 06-03-2009, 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by banzai7

You are only boosting 15psi on APR stage 2? Thats your problem.

x2

sounds like a leak somewhere then. you should be at least 3-5psi higher then that. Shit, At stage 1 im peaking at 17-18.

banzai7 · 06-03-2009, 11:42 AM

I usually peak around 21 with APR stage 2 test pipe file.

idk alex · 06-03-2009, 11:59 AM

it looks like spray

sloMk5 · 06-03-2009, 11:59 AM

The 06 files request lower boost than 07/08, but if you're only hitting 15 then you have a leak, most likely PCV since it's stock.

idk alex · 06-03-2009, 12:05 PM

This reminds, of when me and you(matt) were at euro warz and at the track. I ran that blue GLI who was fully tuned. I would walk him and then he started to spray and fucked my day.

banzai7 · 06-03-2009, 12:10 PM

Stop saying spray, It does not has NOS or any type of spray.

idk alex · 06-03-2009, 12:11 PM

spray

06-02-2009, 10:27 AM	#25
julito04 I plead the fif. Drives: 06 UG GTI Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: STL Posts: 11,697	one of them? Just get rid of them with the BSH PCV fix. __________________

06-02-2009, 07:35 PM	#28
Budussy Formula 5000 Driver Drives: slow'n low Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: wesitaly,pawcatuck bdr Posts: 1,388	Havent seen a mkV with nos yet. __________________ 1% of 1000hp is 100 hp

06-02-2009, 08:04 PM	#30
sloMk5 ___________ Drives: 07 6MT 2DR Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: FL Posts: 3,031 View sloMk5's Garage	hard to tell but it sounded like he started at pretty low RPM which would explain why you hung for a second before he walked you. Looks about right to me though, you have an 06, so your tune is a lot less agressive than the other model years, not to mention the hardware is more limited. And on the stock PCV you're even slower. I don't know his mods, but there's also a big difference between basic stage 2 and and an all out stock turbo setup. Stage 2 still really has no topend... __________________ Revo stage 2 best trap: 107.46, best ET: 13.439 APR stage 2+ best trap: 105.95, best ET: 13.509 Revo stage 2+ numbers coming eventually...

06-02-2009, 08:24 PM	#32
sloMk5 ___________ Drives: 07 6MT 2DR Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: FL Posts: 3,031 View sloMk5's Garage	very old, search for the BMF Nitrous Kit thread in the Vortex archives edit here it is http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=3412422 __________________ Revo stage 2 best trap: 107.46, best ET: 13.439 APR stage 2+ best trap: 105.95, best ET: 13.509 Revo stage 2+ numbers coming eventually...

06-03-2009, 09:01 AM	#34
Grmncrsnbr I CC what you did there Drives: 2009 CC Sport Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Ashburn, VA Posts: 4,995	Im still trying to figure out your explanation. So he walked you but beat your buddies GSR worse than he beat you yet you cant beat your buddies GSR. Logically that doesnt make any sense. He > You He >> GSR GSR > You sounds more like driver error than anything else to me. Yeah he may have is stock PCV/DV replaced and what not but it sounds like you are inconsistent when it comes to driving. No offense or anything just my take on it. __________________ Dang?

06-02-2009, 10:02 AM	#23
banzai7 Banned Drives: 08 BMP DSG Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Hawthorn Woods, Il Posts: 1,323 View banzai7's Garage	It was not NOS I can garuntee that.... I pretty sure that post was a joke

06-02-2009, 10:08 AM	#24
banzai7 Banned Drives: 08 BMP DSG Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Hawthorn Woods, Il Posts: 1,323 View banzai7's Garage	Definately should think of getting one of pcv fixes if your stage 2

06-02-2009, 01:10 PM	#26
lewxcore Autocross Champion Drives: 2007 AUDI A3 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: SOFLO Posts: 110	water/meth is good for some power.. not a crazy load but still.. that could be the difference between a just a downpipe stage 2 and a HPFP upgraded/water-meth/maybe possible wastegate tweeked stage 2+ car. I've seen my car pull away from similar stage 2 gti's top end. The only video i have of something like that is a stage 2 dsg mkv running 110 leaded and a tweeked wastegate. I started in 3rd cause my stock clutch was seeing the end of it's days but i went from getting walked to reeling him in and passing him. I shut down once i got out in front of him. see 2:25 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34OByMXxRok

06-03-2009, 08:19 AM	#33
Slim2002 'sPEEd' junkie Drives: 2006 GTI Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: ft.lauderdale,FL Posts: 363 View Slim2002's Garage	ok all these suggestion's and theory's seem to be very solid, I hate to sound like a noob but can anyone of you guy's explain to me how the PCV fix helps out the motor or can you point me to a previous post on the pcv fix?

06-03-2009, 09:34 AM	#35
Slim2002 'sPEEd' junkie Drives: 2006 GTI Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: ft.lauderdale,FL Posts: 363 View Slim2002's Garage	well Grmncrsnbr i kind of agree with you on that but we ran again that night t and he couldn't pull me like he usually did, and i know it's not a big mod, but that DV helped me alot, cause everytime we ran before he would pull me hard but now he's having trouble, i guess also with the stock dv i was boosting 12psi but with the Forge dv im holding 15psi..when i get that clip i send it to you, that's unless he destroy's the evidence..lol

06-03-2009, 09:55 AM	#36
banzai7 Banned Drives: 08 BMP DSG Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Hawthorn Woods, Il Posts: 1,323 View banzai7's Garage	You are only boosting 15psi on APR stage 2? Thats your problem.

06-03-2009, 11:42 AM	#39
banzai7 Banned Drives: 08 BMP DSG Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Hawthorn Woods, Il Posts: 1,323 View banzai7's Garage	I usually peak around 21 with APR stage 2 test pipe file.

06-03-2009, 11:59 AM	#40
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06-03-2009, 12:05 PM	#42
idk alex hellagay Drives: TSI Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: tampa Posts: 5,140 View idk alex's Garage	This reminds, of when me and you(matt) were at euro warz and at the track. I ran that blue GLI who was fully tuned. I would walk him and then he started to spray and fucked my day. __________________ FS Votex Rear Diffuser At the end of the road, You'll find what you've been longing for. Check out my endorser :)

06-03-2009, 12:10 PM	#43
banzai7 Banned Drives: 08 BMP DSG Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Hawthorn Woods, Il Posts: 1,323 View banzai7's Garage	Stop saying spray, It does not has NOS or any type of spray.

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06-03-2009, 12:11 PM	#44
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