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vwangler · 07-03-2009, 01:56 PM

Well... it's new to me.

1.8 liters of fury...

GTI787 · 07-03-2009, 01:59 PM

Nice! Me like

vdubin16 · 07-03-2009, 02:00 PM

thats awesome! what are your plans for it?

vwangler · 07-03-2009, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by vdubin16

thats awesome! what are your plans for it?

My goal is to make a streetable track car. At some point, I'll be doing a 16V swap. I still need to go through the car, to figure out what's good, and what needs to be replaced etc. The previous owner gave me boxes upon boxes of extra parts that he yanked from a parts car of his... so I need to sort through those, figure out what I want to keep and what can be sold for seed money.

imports · 07-03-2009, 05:26 PM

looks like alot of work, it's all good though.

MasterGunnZ · 07-03-2009, 06:05 PM

old schoooooool

RUSH_RLRII · 07-03-2009, 06:39 PM

sweet project. this looks like it will be so much fun. its an empty pallete

TwentyonePSI · 07-04-2009, 12:27 AM

Cool

The car shouldn't sit like that, unless it's all the shit in the back. Let me know if you need any more motor spares.

BamaKID · 07-04-2009, 10:08 AM

ballin

vwangler · 07-04-2009, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by TwentyonePSI

Cool

The car shouldn't sit like that, unless it's all the shit in the back. Let me know if you need any more motor spares.

It's go two sets of back seats folded up, and other components from the parts car... so yea, it is sporting some reverse rake at the moment.

srbsta · 07-04-2009, 07:25 PM

ohhhhh man that's awesome \.....they ae soo rare here

Fociracr · 07-04-2009, 07:35 PM

HaHa thats sooo bad ass, find a VR6 engine turbo it and slap it in there, you'll have a sleeper.

*GTI2007* · 07-04-2009, 07:37 PM

nice MK1

PS: Moved.

John/Cue\Publik · 07-05-2009, 05:12 PM

looks pretty clean, I loves my 84. I got a suggestion for the 16v swap that should be cheaper and better, consider a 16v head on an ABA, really seems to work out really nice in most cases. Heh I have an 84 that I was planning on building the shit out of but I've come to the conclusion my boosted 2.5 is gonna wind up finished first as I had no idea how close I am to building exactly what I wanted out of my MKV. Anyways the body on my 84 is clean but not pristine so I'm in the midst of shaving all but the door handles, my plan is to take a g60 syncro tranny from a b3 passat to go awd and build an aba/16v turbo with bahn brenners serial killa kit. Let me know if you need any advice. I'll leave you with a pretty handy link. http://www.rabbitgtipage.com/Swaps/engineswaps.html
oh and VR6 isn't worth the extra effort over the aba/16v frankenstein, more weight, requires chasis modification to hold the extra weight not to mention you can squeeze 400whp out of the aba/16v with a t3/t4 turbo and more out of the same setup if you build a stroker with a TDI crank. Megasquirt standalone is your friend but the only place you should go for it is. http://www.diyautotune.com

vwangler · 07-05-2009, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by John/Cue\Publik

looks pretty clean, I loves my 84. I got a suggestion for the 16v swap that should be cheaper and better, consider a 16v head on an ABA, really seems to work out really nice in most cases. Heh I have an 84 that I was planning on building the shit out of but I've come to the conclusion my boosted 2.5 is gonna wind up finished first as I had no idea how close I am to building exactly what I wanted out of my MKV. Anyways the body on my 84 is clean but not pristine so I'm in the midst of shaving all but the door handles, my plan is to take a g60 syncro tranny from a b3 passat to go awd and build an aba/16v turbo with bahn brenners serial killa kit. Let me know if you need any advice. I'll leave you with a pretty handy link. http://www.rabbitgtipage.com/Swaps/engineswaps.html
oh and VR6 isn't worth the extra effort over the aba/16v frankenstein, more weight, requires chasis modification to hold the extra weight not to mention you can squeeze 400whp out of the aba/16v with a t3/t4 turbo and more out of the same setup if you build a stroker with a TDI crank. Megasquirt standalone is your friend but the only place you should go for it is. http://www.diyautotune.com

Yea, I've considered doing a bubble block swap... but if I go that route, I will probably keep the 8v head and keep it simple. I've got a pretty good deal of body work to do as well, I plan on drilling out the front core support spot welds and welding in a Euro front core support and fenders so that I can run circular headlamps etc. It's going to be allot of work... but I was looking for a fun project. Right now I'm waiting for my bentley manual to arrive so that I can debug a starting issue that I am having. I'd like to get the 1.8 running a little better... or at least figure out the problem so that I'm not relying on broken components after the proposed swap.

Anyway, best of luck with the 84... keep up the good work!

John/Cue\Publik · 07-05-2009, 08:34 PM

whats your starting issue like, I've had 2 MKI GTIs and I can honestly say CIS injection engines aren't exactly the easiest things to get started. 1st one I had, looked about like yours needed new injectors. I had to crank and find a balance, couldn't let it idle for 30 sec or it would stall but giving it much gas before it had a second to warm up and it would stall. The engine in the one I have now is solid, some previous owner did the 2.0 digi headswap but kept it on CIS, needs a waterpump gasket but thats pretty much all thats wrong under the hood. So I'm gonna go out on a limb and assume your motor mounts aren't in good shape.

vwangler · 07-05-2009, 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John/Cue\Publik

whats your starting issue like, I've had 2 MKI GTIs and I can honestly say CIS injection engines aren't exactly the easiest things to get started. 1st one I had, looked about like yours needed new injectors. I had to crank and find a balance, couldn't let it idle for 30 sec or it would stall but giving it much gas before it had a second to warm up and it would stall. The engine in the one I have now is solid, some previous owner did the 2.0 digi headswap but kept it on CIS, needs a waterpump gasket but thats pretty much all thats wrong under the hood. So I'm gonna go out on a limb and assume your motor mounts aren't in good shape.

Well, it only happens on 'cold' starts... i.e. the engine hasn't been running for a while. My guess is it might having something to do with the cold start valve... unless the cold start valve only takes over when it is actually cold outside. The idle will be really rough at first (if it doesn't stall) and then after about ~1 minute it will smooth out nicely. Although it seem to idle a tad high (about 1500 RPMs). The right most mount has been replaced, along with most of the fuel system.

John/Cue\Publik · 07-05-2009, 10:50 PM

mine does the same but I as I mentioned before somebody popped in a built digi 2.0 head and the cam on mine looks rather rediculous. Wish I knew what degree they were. None the less you might be interested in popping the valve cover off, it only lakes a minute to do and valve cover gaskets are like $5. I've been all over fixing stuff on my 1.8 and I've come to the conclusion that the head and cams are causing this issue for me. Only potential issues that may be causing this on mine that I haven't addressed is the idle and WOT switches aren't hooked up on my TB. Anyways most of these cars seem to be significantly modded so its look a peek to see if you have an aggressive cam. I will also say I usually have to give the car a good few revs on a cold start to keep it from stalling, watch your voltage guage while starting if yours still has it.

vwangler · 07-11-2009, 04:44 PM

Update:

Got some temporary new tires. I don't plan on keeping the snowflakes, but the current tires were badly dry rotted and I'd like to be able to drive it around for a little before I really dig in and start stripping everything. I also removed the hideous US spec. front and rear bumpers... really cleans up and modernizes the look of the car. The most notable update, however, is that I just ordered a welder: a millermatic 140. I would have liked to have gotten a 230V welder, but I have a detached garage... and I'd have to get the power company to run a 230 line in. Anyway, I will be posting more updates soon.

John/Cue\Publik · 07-12-2009, 03:56 PM

cool stoked to see what all you shave

vwangler · 09-28-2009, 07:37 PM

Minor updates:

Still haven't started the body work, but it's just a matter of time. The rear interior of the car has been completely stripped, sound deadening and all. Also got a few goodies, including a mint momo competition wheel (I installed it to mock up my new seat supports), and some H&R ultra lows. I've been going back and forth as to whether or not I still want to convert to single round, the more integrated I become into the MK1 community the more I want to keep the late westy look. I love the look of single rounds, but I like the idea of keeping as much original sheet metal as possible. Anyway, the obligatory pics for clicks will follow.

Removing sound deadening (so fun).

Before:

During (dry ice method):

After (so clean):

New stuff:

(mmm... ultra lows)

BamaKID · 09-28-2009, 07:41 PM

cant wait to see how it looks with coils

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John/Cue\Publik Speed>stance $John/Cue\Publik's Avatar$ Drives: c2 turbo bunny Join Date: May 2007 Location: Lake Stevens, WA Posts: 6,237 View John/Cue\Publik's Garage $Send a message via AIM to John/Cue\Publik$	looks pretty clean, I loves my 84. I got a suggestion for the 16v swap that should be cheaper and better, consider a 16v head on an ABA, really seems to work out really nice in most cases. Heh I have an 84 that I was planning on building the shit out of but I've come to the conclusion my boosted 2.5 is gonna wind up finished first as I had no idea how close I am to building exactly what I wanted out of my MKV. Anyways the body on my 84 is clean but not pristine so I'm in the midst of shaving all but the door handles, my plan is to take a g60 syncro tranny from a b3 passat to go awd and build an aba/16v turbo with bahn brenners serial killa kit. Let me know if you need any advice. I'll leave you with a pretty handy link. http://www.rabbitgtipage.com/Swaps/engineswaps.html oh and VR6 isn't worth the extra effort over the aba/16v frankenstein, more weight, requires chasis modification to hold the extra weight not to mention you can squeeze 400whp out of the aba/16v with a t3/t4 turbo and more out of the same setup if you build a stroker with a TDI crank. Megasquirt standalone is your friend but the only place you should go for it is. http://www.diyautotune.com __________________ -2007 Rabbit 2.5:::Denvers: smoked clear sides: Textured GTI rear lower: Magnaflow exhaust: Techtonics High Flow Cat: Podi Boost Guage: VEI Dual Display Gauge Oil Pressure/ AFR: C2 Stg 2 turbo: Turbo XS MBC: Forge 007 DV : o2j swap: Quaife LSD: Southbend Stg 3 clutch, single mass flywheel: AEM w/m kit: BSH mounts : EBC Yellowstuff pads
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09-28-2009, 07:37 PM	#21
vwangler Keep ur $ I <3 my clunker Drives: 1983 MKI GTI, BMP 2008 MKV GTI Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Alabama Posts: 1,089	Minor updates: Still haven't started the body work, but it's just a matter of time. The rear interior of the car has been completely stripped, sound deadening and all. Also got a few goodies, including a mint momo competition wheel (I installed it to mock up my new seat supports), and some H&R ultra lows. I've been going back and forth as to whether or not I still want to convert to single round, the more integrated I become into the MK1 community the more I want to keep the late westy look. I love the look of single rounds, but I like the idea of keeping as much original sheet metal as possible. Anyway, the obligatory pics for clicks will follow. Removing sound deadening (so fun). Before: During (dry ice method): After (so clean): New stuff: (mmm... ultra lows) __________________ My MK1 Build! H2O Tuning SOWO 11

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