Brake upgrades for the track

[Dan GSR]

cuz the hot rotor will burn the pads, and it is possible to warp the rotor

 

[g60_corrado_91]

Oh, you learn something new everyday.

 

[mike2727]

Good tip. This is usually reiterated a few times in HPDE1 classroom sessions but it doesn't hurt to say it again.

As for the "HPS+" pads- there's no such thing, it's HPS or HP+ :biggrin:

Sorry you are right I ment the HP+ pads, nice for the road not for the track

Mike

 

[mkvtg37]

very good information... now here is a noob brake question:

do you have to upgrade both the front and rear brake systems or can you just upgrade and improve one (if you are going big brake kit for example)?

 

[johnny love]

good threads, Meat! you might also want to mention the Tyrolsport bushings :thumbup:

I switched to XP10's and XP8's in the rear, [...], they cannot be beat at the track as Meat said, they are the best I ever used at the track

sure the XP10s can be beat: try XP12 or XP16.

do you have to upgrade both the front and rear brake systems or can you just upgrade and improve one (if you are going big brake kit for example)?

with the kits i've seen, you don't need to upgrade the rear rotors. the rears do too much work as it is.

 

[Meat]

good threads, Meat! you might also want to mention the Tyrolsport bushings :thumbup:



sure the XP10s can be beat: try XP12 or XP16.



with the kits i've seen, you don't need to upgrade the rear rotors. the rears do too much work as it is.

I'll make a mention of them.

And one more note: as you've told me, the XP12's and 16's can be too much for street tires to handle.

 

[mike2727]

very good information... now here is a noob brake question:

do you have to upgrade both the front and rear brake systems or can you just upgrade and improve one (if you are going big brake kit for example)?

You do not have to upgrade the rears, but you should use comparable pads in the rear, if you go BBK make sure they are balanced with the stock rears, the StopTechs I have are balanced with the stock rears

Mike

 

[jerm5]

I'll make a mention of them.

And one more note: as you've told me, the XP12's and 16's can be too much for street tires to handle.

what do you mean too much for street tires to handle?

 

[Dan GSR]

12s and 16s are more suited for heavier cars

 

[Dan GSR]

even xp10s with street tires, the tires will overheat WAY before the brake pads will

 

[jerm5]

ohhh i see

 

[g60_corrado_91]

As in, the tires will lock up too quickly right Dan? R compounds or those pads aren't even necessary in a ~3100lb car.

 

[Dan GSR]

no, i mean the tires will overheat, beyond thier optimal working range
and that is when you start to loose grip

 

[g60_corrado_91]

Oh okay.

 

[Meat]

even xp10s with street tires, the tires will overheat WAY before the brake pads will

yep, my Azenis 615's would start to get greasy well before the pads would start to fade. I haven't had a problem with the pads fading since I removed the dust shields, but I have had the tires still get a bit too hot a few times.

The xp12's and xp16's are also much more aggressive compounds that generate greater levels of braking torque- that makes lockups (or ABS intrusion) much more likely.